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User: Guide train for spiral wrap using a Diawa Saltiga 2 speed.

Guide train for spiral wrap using a Diawa Saltiga 2 speed.

Assistant: Here’s a proven spiral acid wrap guide train that works extremely well with a Daiwa Saltiga 2-speed on heavy saltwater …

Here’s a proven spiral (acid) wrap guide train that works extremely well with a Daiwa Saltiga 2-speed on heavy saltwater rods (jigging, bottom fishing, offshore live bait).

This layout prioritizes line control under heavy load, zero torque, and clean transition—important with wide, tall Saltiga frames.

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This 2-transition method is extremely stable with heavy reels and avoids line rub under load.

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• Stripper: 20 or 25
• Transition 1: 16
• Transition 2: 12
• Runners: 10 or 8 (to tip)

- Stripper: 20

• Transition 1: 16
• Transition 2: 12
• Runners: 10 or 8

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• Stripper: 19–22" from reel seat
• Transition 1: 3–4" past stripper
• Transition 2: 3–4" past transition 1
• First 180° runner: ~4" past transition 2
• Remaining runners evenly spaced to tip

✔ Tall reel frame → wide stripper angle handled cleanly

✔ Heavy drag → no rod twist under load ✔ Two-speed cranking → smooth retrieve at all angles ✔ Offshore durability → fewer stress points than multi-transition spirals

- Stripper slightly offset (~5°) to favor natural line path

• Bumper guide (tiny 6–8 mm @ ~60°) if blank is extremely fast
• Double-foot stripper + transition guides for max strength

If you want exact spacing and sizes:

1. Blank model & length
2. Line class (braid + leader size)
3. Ring or roller guides
4. Intended use (jigging, bottom, trolling, live bait)

I can spec this down to exact guide count and spacing for your build.

User: 6'6" blank

6'6" blank

Assistant: Perfect — a 6'6" heavy blank is an ideal length for a spiral acid wrap with a Daiwa Saltiga 2-speed.

Perfect — a 6'6" heavy blank is an ideal length for a spiral (acid) wrap with a Daiwa Saltiga 2-speed. Below is a dialed-in, field-proven layout that works exceptionally well for bottom fishing, jigging, and heavy live bait.

6'6" Spiral Wrap Guide Train (Saltiga 2-Speed)

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Guide Orientation (Simple 2-Transition)

• Stripper: 0° (top)
• Transition 1: 45°
• Transition 2: 90°
• Runners: 180° (bottom)

This keeps the transition short, strong, and torque-free, which matters with a wide, tall Saltiga frame and high drag loads.

Recommended Guide Sizes

Ring Guides (SiC / Alconite – most common)

• Stripper: 20
• Transition 1: 16
• Transition 2: 12
• Runners: 10 (preferred for 40–80 lb)
• Tip: 10 or 12 ring

Roller Guides (if building true offshore heavy)

• Stripper: 20 or 25
• Transition 1: 16
• Transition 2: 12
• Runners: 10

For a Saltiga 2-speed, double-foot stripper + transitions are strongly recommended.

Starting Spacing (Measured From Reel Seat)

These are starting points — final spacing should be confirmed with a static load test.

| Guide | Distance | | ------------------- | --------------------- | | Stripper (0°) | 20–21" | | Transition 1 (45°) | +3.5" | | Transition 2 (90°) | +3.5" | | First Runner (180°) | +4" | | Remaining Runners | 4" → 3.5" → 3" to tip |

Typical Guide Count

• 8 total guides + tip
• 9 + tip if the blank is fast or sees heavy drag often

Small Tweaks That Help

• Offset stripper ~3–5° toward the spiral direction for smoother line path
• Keep first 180° runner far enough past the 90° to avoid line touch under load
• If using braid only, you can go size 8 runners, but size 10 is safer offshore

Why This Layout Works on a 6'6"

✔ Short transition = stronger blank section ✔ No torque when lifting fish vertically ✔ Smooth retrieve in both gear ranges ✔ Handles heavy braid + leader knots cleanly

If you want this nailed perfectly, tell me:

1. Blank model & power rating
2. Line class (braid + leader size)
3. Ring vs roller
4. Fishing style (deep jigging, grouper snapper, tuna, etc.)

I’ll give you exact final spacing ready for tape-up and test load.