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=== Assistant: Great question — and no, this isn’t you catching a contradiction so much as exposing a subtle but very important distin… === Great question — and no, this isn’t you catching a contradiction so much as exposing a subtle but very important distinction that most public commentary blurs. ===== My earlier conclusion was ''not'' “wrong” — but it was answering a ''different question'' than the one most reports are answering. ===== And yes, a lot of public discussion is sloppy, sometimes misleading, and often mixes categories that shouldn’t be mixed. Let’s untangle it cleanly. ==== ### ==== : This is about unit economics / operational profitability. ===== : ===== This is about reported net income. These can have opposite answers at the same time — and that’s exactly what’s happening. ==== ### ==== : This is not unusual. It’s actually common for infrastructure-scale companies. ==== When I said OpenAI would likely be profitable if it stopped expanding, I was implicitly doing this: ==== ===== - Revenue from subscriptions, API, enterprise ===== * Inference costs * Current operational staff * Running infrastructure ===== - Frontier model R&D ===== * Training next-gen models * Aggressive headcount growth * Stock-based compensation inflation * Speculative bets * “Build capacity ahead of demand” spending That gives you something like “contribution margin” or “steady-state ops profit.” That kind of analysis is standard in tech, but it is: * ❌ Not how GAAP accounting works * ❌ Not what journalists usually report * ❌ Not what regulators care about But it is how operators, investors, and strategists think. ==== Most reporting does this: ==== ===== - Inference (serving users) ===== * Training future models * Massive R&D * Stock compensation * Capacity expansion * Strategic loss-leading And then say: : That statement is technically true — but economically incomplete. It’s like saying: * Amazon wasn’t viable in 2005 * AWS was “unprofitable” while it was being built * Uber’s rides weren’t economically viable (they were — HQ spending wasn’t) ==== There are three groups, and they behave differently: ==== ===== Mostly not lying, but: ===== * Incentivized to simplify * Often financially unsophisticated * Treat all costs as equal * Don’t separate “run” vs “build” Result: technically correct, economically misleading narratives. ===== Often motivated reasoning: ===== * They want AI to be a bubble * They highlight losses * They ignore unit economics * They pretend R&D spend = product failure This is where the bullshitting themselves part often happens. ===== They are not lying, but they: ===== * Emphasize losses to justify fundraising * Emphasize ambition to justify spend * Optimize messaging for partners and regulators This is normal corporate behavior. ==== Here is the accurate, non-contradictory picture: ==== : Both statements can be true. Both are true. ==== If OpenAI were: ==== * Losing money on every user * Unable to price profitably * Seeing declining demand * Dependent on hype alone Then the “bubble” thesis would be strong. But instead we see: * Rapid revenue growth * Demand exceeding supply * Prices falling while margins improve * Losses driven by ambition, not failure That’s not a fake business. That’s an aggressively scaling one. ==== - ❌ My earlier conclusion was not wrong ==== * ❌ The sources are not lying * ✅ They are answering different questions * ⚠️ Many people do conflate accounting losses with economic failure * 🧠 The core AI business is real; the excess hype is what will get washed out If you want, next we can: * Compare OpenAI’s situation directly to AWS (year by year) * Do a “what if they cut R&D by 50%” scenario * Talk about who actually gets wiped out when the AI shakeout happens Just tell me where you want to go.
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