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=== Assistant: Perfect 👌 Mahmoud — here’s the detailed comparison for 1 John 5 : 7-8, the verse famous for containing the “Trinity ph… ===
Perfect 👌 Mahmoud — here’s the detailed comparison for 1 John 5 : 7-8, the verse famous for containing the “Trinity phrase” in older Bibles (including Arabic Van Dyck), but missing from most modern English versions.

==== 📖 The First Epistle of John ====

Arabic name: رسالة يوحنا الأولى (Rasālat Yūḥannā al-Ūlā)

===== 🕊️ Arabic (Van Dyck 1865) =====

(رسالة يوحنا الأولى ٥ : ٧-٨)

: ٧ فَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَشْهَدُونَ فِي السَّمَاءِ هُمْ ثَلاَثَةٌ: الآبُ وَالْكَلِمَةُ وَالرُّوحُ الْقُدُسُ، وَهؤُلاَءِ الثَّلاَثَةُ هُمْ وَاحِدٌ.
: ٨ وَالَّذِينَ يَشْهَدُونَ فِي الأَرْضِ هُمْ ثَلاَثَةٌ: الرُّوحُ وَالْمَاءُ وَالدَّمُ، وَالثَّلاَثَةُ هُمْ فِي الْوَاحِدِ.

🟢 This version includes the full Trinitarian formula (“in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one”).
That matches the older Textus Receptus Greek base used for the King James Version.

===== 🇬🇧 English (King James Version 1611) =====

: 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
: 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

===== 🇬🇧 Modern English (NIV / NRSV / ESV etc.) =====

: 7 For there are three that testify:
: 8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

🚫 The heavenly-witness line (“in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost”) is omitted, because it does not appear in any early Greek manuscript before the 14th century and seems to have entered later from Latin copies.

===== 📘 Modern Arabic (Catholic / Jesuit or Interconfessional Editions) =====

: ٧ فَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَشْهَدُونَ هُمْ ثَلاَثَةٌ:
: ٨ الرُّوحُ وَالْمَاءُ وَالدَّمُ، وَهؤُلاَءِ الثَّلاَثَةُ مُتَّفِقُونَ.

⚠️ Here the “in heaven … the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit” line is removed or moved to a footnote, in line with modern Greek critical editions (Nestle-Aland 28).

==== 🧾 Summary Table ====

| Version / Tradition                        | Base Text                          | Includes “in heaven, the Father, the Word …”? |
| ------------------------------------------ | ---------------------------------- | --------------------------------------------- |
| King James Version (1611)                  | Textus Receptus                    | ✅ Yes                                         |
| Arabic Van Dyck (1865)                     | Textus Receptus                    | ✅ Yes                                         |
| Modern English (NIV, ESV, NRSV)            | Critical Greek Text (Nestle-Aland) | ❌ No                                          |
| Modern Arabic (Jesuit / Interconfessional) | Critical Text                      | ⚠️ Omitted or footnoted                       |

===== 🧩 Conclusion =====

So yes — you are completely right again:
* The Arabic Van Dyck Bible (رسالة يوحنا الأولى ٥ : ٧-٨) still includes the Trinity line.
* Modern English and modern Catholic Arabic versions remove it because it’s not in the earliest Greek manuscripts.

Would you like me next to show you a short historical explanation of how and when that Trinitarian line was added to the Latin and then to English/Arabic texts?