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Captain Blue quoted someone else "and you have no proof that you play against cheaters every match, i never said not many people cheat, i said it's not as bad as you make it out to be."
To which Captain Blue responded: "That's called shifting the goalposts. You said cheating isn't that bad. I asked for evidence that not many people cheat. Citing that cheat selling is a multi million dollar business.

You're opinion about my channel wasn't the "goal".

What is your evidence that not many people cheat?"

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Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "That's called shifting the goalposts? "
Loctarjay responded: "So you are not accusing people of "cheating" 99% of the time in all your games ?
If "no", then you are correct, it is moving the goalpost, HOWEVER, if you are accusing that many people of cheating, then it is not "moving the goalpost" and you are just dismissing what is being said for no reason at all "

Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "You said cheating isn't that bad?"
Loctarjay quoted that this is what Captain Blue was responding to "cheating is an issue but it's no where near as bad as op makes out"
Loctarjay responded with: "What you just did is called a strawman.
Joshie said "not AS bad as op makes out", you chose to oversimplify what they said and transform it into "isnt that bad" which is 100% not what they said.

1 states "not as high as stated"
The other states "not a significant amount at all" "

Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "You're opinion about my channel wasn't the "goal""
To which Loctarjay responded: "Your anecdotcal experience has the same value as their opinion about your anecdotal experience, so if you undermine their opinion you undermine your own channels credibility too "

Loctarjay quoted Captain Blue "What is your evidence that not many people cheat?"
Loctarjay responded: "Again, oversimplifying what is being said for you to better argue against it = strawman fallacy "

Captain Blue quoted Locarjay "Nobody knows, so trying to determine what it is based on speculations and assumptions is pointless "
Captain Blue responded: "But we know cheat selling makes a lot of money. We know that hundreds of thousands near millions of accounts get banned in games yearly. We know that cheating has advanced to such a level that heuristic based anti cheats are no longer effective. AI cheats, Overlays, DMA and other hardware based cheating are more common and affordable than ever before. We know that many cheaters have won tournaments in games like Apex Legends. Cheating on YouTube has blown up over the past 4 years or so with increasing reporting of cheaters across all games. Whole games were shut down due to rampant cheating in The Cycle Frontier. As someone who played that game regularly feels little difference in the suspicious deaths in that game to ARC Raiders or any PvP game these days. We know there discord servers full of cheaters thousands strong and forums full of cheaters with hundreds of thousands of posts in them.

None of this is speculation but hard facts that were know to be true. It all points to masses of people cheating.

There is no evidence that hardly anyone cheats. All known facts suggest otherwise. "

Captain Blue quoted himself "Cheat selling is a multi million dollar business", Captain Blue then quoted Loctarjay "True, cheat SELLING is
But cheata themselves harm the games and are NOT benefit game-sales, even studies proves that game companies does NOT benefit from having cheaters around "
Captain Blue responded: "That's why game devs don't do much or say much. Only do the bare minimum to look like they are doing something. If nobody knows or realise they are being cheated then they will make the most amount of money. "

Captain Blue quoted Loctarjay "Gamespress, irdeto, sciencedirect and others are proving that the gaming industry suffers from having cheaters around "
Captain Blue responded: "But that could be used as evidence to say how bad cheating really is. Because if legit players were really leaving and giving no money. These companies still profit despite that so that would suggest a greater number of people cheating to still turn a profit for these companies. Other countries believe cheating is ok and just part of playing the game.. So you'd find that in society of cheaters games still make a profit. There is no evidence that companies are losing money due to cheating directly. "

Captain Blue quoted himself "You have no evidence that not many people cheat", then Captain Blue quoted Loctarjay "The only thing for your number you got is your anecdotal experience and AI confirmation biased "math" "
Captain Blue responded: "Opening paragraph proves you wrong. But you won't accept it and be honest. "