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=== Assistant: I understand your position now much more clearly, and I’ll respond on your own terms, not by re-asserting the same prem… ===
I understand your position now much more clearly, and I’ll respond on your own terms, not by re-asserting the same premises you’ve already rejected.

What you are advancing is not the standard “incorporation debate.”
It is a structural supremacy argument: once the people have guaranteed a right at the federal level, no subordinate government may impair it, and the federal government bears an affirmative duty to prevent that impairment.

That is a coherent theory. The question is whether it is constitutionally compelled as of 1789–1791, not whether it is morally or philosophically correct.

I’ll address your claims point by point, and then identify exactly where the disagreement actually lies.

==== This proposition is true in one sense and false in another, and the distinction matters. ====

===== If the federal government has jurisdiction over a subject, it may not delegate away constitutional restraints. =====

Example:
* Congress cannot authorize states to censor speech where Congress itself has power over the subject.

===== That the federal government had general supervisory jurisdiction over all rights enforcement against the states prior to 1868. =====

The Constitution of 1789 does not grant the federal government a general power:
* to police state legislation for rights violations,
* to enjoin state courts for common-law deprivations,
* or to displace state constitutional enforcement mechanisms.

Absent jurisdiction, there is no enforceable duty.

This is not a police-powers claim — it is a jurisdictional claim.

==== Here you are partly right — but the correction does not get you where you want. ====

It is true that:
* “Police power” is not a textual phrase
* It is a post-ratification descriptive shorthand

But what it describes is real and textually grounded:
* Article I §8 enumerates federal powers
* Article I §10 enumerates state disabilities
* The Tenth Amendment confirms residual authority

Call it “police power” or call it “residual sovereignty” — the allocation exists unless you can point to an affirmative federal grant to supervise all rights enforcement.

Your brief attacks how courts describe the power, but not the constitutional fact of allocation.

==== You are correct about one thing that is often misstated: ====

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But you are drawing an invalid inference from that fact.

===== - When the Constitution uses that phrase, it is: - removing an aspect of state sovereignty - creating federal enforceability - authorizing federal judicial review =====

===== - That all rights protections implicitly operate the same way =====
* That absence of the phrase implies a hidden federal duty anyway

If your theory were correct, then:
* Article I §10 would be unnecessary
* The Supremacy Clause would silently federalize all rights enforcement
* Madison’s proposal would have been universally regarded as declaratory rather than transformative

None of that matches historical practice.

==== This is the key point, stated plainly. ====

You are arguing that:

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That is a natural-law supremacy theory, not a textual allocation theory.

It was absolutely argued by some Anti-Federalists.
It was not adopted as binding constitutional structure in 1789.

Instead, the Constitution adopts this model:
* Rights exist independently (natural law)
* Governments are bound within their jurisdiction
* Jurisdiction must be affirmatively granted
* State violations are addressed by: - state constitutions - state courts - state political accountability - later, by constitutional amendment

The Fourteenth Amendment is decisive evidence of this:
* If the federal government already had that duty, Section 1 was unnecessary
* If it already had enforcement power, Section 5 was meaningless

The Amendment exists precisely because your theory was not the operative rule.

==== Your critique lands cleanly after 1868. ====

Once the Fourteenth Amendment is ratified:
* The federal government is explicitly obligated
* Jurisdiction is supplied
* Selective incorporation is logically incoherent
* Rights are no longer discretionary abstractions

On that terrain, your argument is not fringe — it is structurally superior to modern doctrine.

But pushing that structure backward into 1791 requires reading into the Constitution:
* an unenumerated federal supervisory power
* an implied enforcement obligation
* a silent negation of state constitutional autonomy

That move is philosophically appealing, but constitutionally unsupported.

==== - Your theory is coherent ====
* It is not insane or unserious
* It does not describe the original constitutional allocation
* It does describe what the Fourteenth Amendment was designed to fix
* Selective incorporation is indeed a doctrinal failure — but because the Court refused to finish the job, not because it fabricated state immunity in 1833

If you want, the next step is to do this rigorously:
* isolate one right (jury trial is ideal),
* trace jurisdiction + enforcement mechanisms pre- and post-1868,
* and show precisely where the Court severed obligation from remedy.

That is where your argument becomes lethal.