Jump to content
Main menu
Main menu
move to sidebar
hide
Navigation
Main page
Recent changes
Random page
freem
Search
Search
Appearance
Create account
Log in
Personal tools
Create account
Log in
Pages for logged out editors
learn more
Contributions
Talk
Editing
Openai/69640cff-e5e0-8003-a8d1-a78b118ca18b
(section)
Add languages
Page
Discussion
English
Read
Edit
Edit source
View history
Tools
Tools
move to sidebar
hide
Actions
Read
Edit
Edit source
View history
General
What links here
Related changes
Special pages
Page information
Appearance
move to sidebar
hide
Warning:
You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you
log in
or
create an account
, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.
Anti-spam check. Do
not
fill this in!
=== User: Okay, I read through the entire response thrice, and I am still unconvinced. === Okay, I read through the entire response thrice, and I am still unconvinced. # Initial question to GPT: "Do not make the mistake of thinking the calculus for the government budget reflects the gains and losses to the economy as a whole." This almost always, if not always, devolve into the same story that studies and in this case, an analysis by AI gives out-- more warm bodies in a country = higher GDP. I know you say you account for that, but the response doesn't seem to have accounted for it enough. # I've heard that so many reports of the fiscal impacts of immigration in the UK simply do not capture many of the programs they use at all. An example that I've seen cited is that almost half of all social housing in London alone is occupied by foreigners, and they get folded into the local council bookkeeping and do not reflect in many fiscal impact studies. True? Are you truly taking into account all the cornucopia of programs and benefits that immigrants avail themselves? Especially the Boriswave migrants. # I am skeptical that “Low-skilled” at entry ≠ “low productivity” forever. If this was true, we'd see and hear of this. Based on what I've read and the direct second hand accounts from those living in the UK I've heard, this seems too good to be true. For example, take the typical low-skill immigrant stereotype of recent times: the Deliveroo driver from the Indian subcontinent who came to the UK in 2021 as part of Boriswave. Am I to believe these cohorts have upgraded themselves to a high-income, high-productivity job and continue to do so in large numbers? Sounds absolutely fantastical. If so, we'd have heard about it. I'd have heard anecdotally about it. # Also, I am pretty sure your analysis doesn't take into account all the literature we know of long-term consequences of economic growth a nation's economic and political institutions will be changed by non-WEIRD immigration as shown by Garett Jones. There are so many effects on national wellbeing that diversity and third-world immigration cause on social trust, norms, trust in institutions etc. and these effects remain well beyond the first generation of immigrants. Did you actually take into this into account?
Summary:
Please note that all contributions to freem are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 (see
Freem:Copyrights
for details). If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource.
Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!
Cancel
Editing help
(opens in new window)