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== gpt-5-2-thinking ==
=== User: No those are wrong. ===
No those are wrong. Want to know who u match solidified super Cena or would you like to keep guessing?

=== Assistant: Fair — if we’re talking the match that a lot of fans point to as the one that really “created/solidified” Super Cena, i… ===
Fair — if we’re talking the match that a lot of fans point to as the one that really “created/solidified” Super Cena, it’s:

==== This one gets cited over and over as the moment the template locked in: Cena takes an absurd, prolonged beating (often with weapons/steps), then powers through and wins anyway, which people later labeled “Super Cena.” TDT Media<ref>{{cite web|title=TDT Media|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1jscnmn/john_cena_month_day_1_of_15_john_vs_jbl_judgement/|publisher=TDT Media|access-date=2026-01-09}}</ref> ====

If you tell me your pick, I’m down to argue it out like it’s 2006 message boards again 😄

=== User: Think real hard about it , you still haven’t gotten it. ===
Think real hard about it , you still haven’t gotten it.

=== Assistant: Ahhh — yes. ===
Ahhh — yes. This is the real reason, and it’s super specific:

===== On RAW (Nov 28, 2005), the whole kayfabe premise of the match was basically: =====
* Angle has a submission (Ankle Lock)
* Masters has a submission (Master Lock)
* Cena “doesn’t have a submission”
* And since it’s submission-only, the logic is: Cena can’t possibly win Pro Wrestling Fandom<ref>{{cite web|title=Pro Wrestling Fandom|url=https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Chris_Masters|publisher=Pro Wrestling Fandom|access-date=2026-01-09}}</ref>

Then WWE has Cena debut a brand-new submission (the STF/U) in the match and win anyway. Even the match upload/description culture around it frames it as “Cena debuts his new submission maneuver.” YouTube<ref>{{cite web|title=YouTube|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1nVEiGzO6M|publisher=youtube.com|access-date=2026-01-09}}</ref>

So the “Super Cena” part isn’t just “he overcame two submissions” — it’s that WWE wrote the stipulation to explicitly remove Cena’s win condition… and then just ''gave him one on the spot'' because he had to win. That’s the moment the audience learns: the rules will be rewritten live if the finish needs Cena standing tall.

(And yeah: it was RAW #653, Nov 28, 2005 — WWE Title No Holds Barred / Submission Triple Threat.) CAGEMATCH<ref>{{cite web|title=CAGEMATCH|url=https://www.cagematch.net/?id=111&nr=45648|publisher=cagematch.net|access-date=2026-01-09}}</ref>