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== gpt-5-2-thinking == === User: C4 first and audit AI after === C4 first and audit AI after === Assistant: Bottom line === ==== Bottom line ==== Insufficient data to fully “check the thread” end-to-end. Reddit blocked direct access (HTTP 429 Too Many Requests) when opening the actual post, so I can only validate the small excerpts visible in search snippets, not the full comments or context. N/A<ref>{{cite web|title=N/A|url=https://chatgpt.com/|publisher=chatgpt.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> === C4 — Audit of the thread (based only on accessible excerpts) === ==== ① Verifier — Facts vs interpretation vs unsupported ==== ===== Verified facts (from accessible excerpts) ===== * The Reddit post titled “Is ChatGPT getting worse and worse for anyone else?” exists at the provided URL. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * The OP states (excerpt): tasks that were easy now require “a lot of handholding,” and “some things it won’t even do” anymore. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * A commenter claims (excerpt) there is a “mass exodus away from ChatGPT.” Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * I attempted to open the thread and was blocked with 429 Too Many Requests. N/A<ref>{{cite web|title=N/A|url=https://chatgpt.com/|publisher=chatgpt.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> ===== Reasonable inferences (clearly labeled) ===== * I’m assuming that the thread contains the usual mix of personal anecdotes and causal theories, because the accessible excerpts already show subjective experience (“handholding”) and a macro-claim (“mass exodus”). This is consistent with other “getting worse” threads visible in search results. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1ngry5t/im_done_with_chatgpt_it_keeps_getting_worse_and/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> ===== Unsupported claims (cannot be validated from excerpts) ===== * “ChatGPT is objectively getting worse” (in accuracy/capability overall). The excerpts provide experience reports, not controlled measurement. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * “Mass exodus” as a measurable market/user metric. The excerpt provides no data source. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * Any specific internal-cause explanation like “they’re cutting compute to make more money” is speculation unless backed by verifiable internal evidence (the “enshitification/less computing” claim appears as an opinion-style post elsewhere). Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1mb0sze/i_think_i_found_why_chatgpt_is_getting_worse/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> ==== ② Bias Detector — Likely bias in the thread content ==== What shows up in these excerpts / related threads: * Negativity/complaint selection bias: people with bad experiences post more often than people whose workflow is fine. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1ngry5t/im_done_with_chatgpt_it_keeps_getting_worse_and/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * Recency bias / change sensitivity: “it used to be better” claims often correlate with perceived shifts after updates (e.g., “after Oct 20”). Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ogxx96/did_chatgpt_get_worse_after_oct_20_it_feels_lazy/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * Attribution bias: jumping from “my outputs got worse” → “company is throttling compute” without evidence. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1mb0sze/i_think_i_found_why_chatgpt_is_getting_worse/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * Group reinforcement: threads can converge on a favored narrative (“nerfed”) because it’s socially sticky, not because it’s proven. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ov0dd9/is_chat_gpt_getting_worse_instead_of_better_lately/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> No commercial persuasion detected in the accessible excerpts (just typical subreddit venting/speculation). ==== ③ Fact Tracker — What can/can’t be verified, and what would verify it ==== Can be verified from excerpts * Users report: more handholding, shorter answers, more errors (across multiple threads). Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> Cannot be verified from excerpts * Trend magnitude (“worse and worse” globally), timing, root cause, subscription-tier effects, or model/version identity for each reporter. What data would make the thread’s central claim testable * A fixed prompt suite + scoring rubric run across time/model versions (same settings), logging: - instruction-following adherence - factual accuracy against ground truth - refusal rates - verbosity/coverage * If people claim “after X date,” they need before/after samples with the same task, not vibes. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ogxx96/did_chatgpt_get_worse_after_oct_20_it_feels_lazy/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> ==== ④ Output Auditor — Clean statement of what this thread supports ==== * The accessible content supports only this: some users perceive degraded usefulness (more handholding / refusals). Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * The accessible content does not support: objective degradation, “mass exodus,” or internal compute-throttling explanations. === AI audit (after C4): what the thread is actually “measuring” (and why it’s weak) === ==== What Reddit anecdotes are good for ==== * Finding failure modes worth reproducing (e.g., “needs handholding,” “skips steps”). Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1qhhkp2/is_chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse_for_anyone_else/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> * Identifying common perception clusters (shorter answers, more errors). Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTPro/comments/1lv5cim/chatgpt_getting_worse_and_worse/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> ==== What Reddit anecdotes are garbage for ==== * Proving “the model got worse” as a general claim. * Diagnosing causes (“compute throttling,” “nerfed for profit”) without independent evidence. Reddit<ref>{{cite web|title=Reddit|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1mb0sze/i_think_i_found_why_chatgpt_is_getting_worse/|publisher=reddit.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> ==== Practical next steps (if you want an actual answer, not a bonfire of vibes) ==== # Reproduce: take 5–10 prompts you used “before,” run them now with fixed constraints (same format, same temperature/settings if available). # Score with a simple rubric (0–2 each): instruction adherence, correctness, completeness, unwanted refusals. # Triangulate by running the same suite on at least one other model/version (if selectable). # Log: paste prompt+response pairs; you can then quantify “handholding” as # of retries needed. If you paste the top post + 10–20 comments (text), I can do a full C4 on the actual thread contents. Right now, Reddit gave us less access than a nightclub bouncer on a power trip. N/A<ref>{{cite web|title=N/A|url=https://chatgpt.com/|publisher=chatgpt.com|access-date=2026-01-20}}</ref> IA flags: IA:SCOPE-LOCKED(thread excerpts only) | IA:UNCERTAINTY=HIGH(full thread inaccessible) | IA:ASSUMPTIONS=EXPLICIT | IA:SOURCES=WEB | IA:NEXT_STEPS=PROVIDED
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