Jump to content
Main menu
Main menu
move to sidebar
hide
Navigation
Main page
Recent changes
Random page
freem
Search
Search
Appearance
Create account
Log in
Personal tools
Create account
Log in
Pages for logged out editors
learn more
Contributions
Talk
Editing
Openai/69358ee4-4684-800b-9a8d-f494370b20b0
(section)
Add languages
Page
Discussion
English
Read
Edit
Edit source
View history
Tools
Tools
move to sidebar
hide
Actions
Read
Edit
Edit source
View history
General
What links here
Related changes
Special pages
Page information
Appearance
move to sidebar
hide
Warning:
You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you
log in
or
create an account
, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.
Anti-spam check. Do
not
fill this in!
== gpt-5-1 == === User: How is a trip like this profitable? === How is a trip like this profitable? === Assistant: Short answer: it isn’t — at least not for most drivers. === Short answer: it isn’t — at least not for most drivers. Let’s break this down using the numbers on the screen: ===== 📉 What You’d Earn vs. What You’d Spend ===== Pay: $64.32 Miles: 110 miles minimum Time estimate: 4 hr 46 min Deliveries: 15 stops (lots of start/stop inefficiency) But the real miles will likely be closer to 130–150 miles when you include: ✓ Driving to pick-up ✓ Deadhead after last drop ✓ Missed turns / routing corrections ✓ Local roads vs. highways ===== 🚗 Cost to You (rough estimate) ===== Using standard IRS costs: * $0.67 per mile × 140 miles ≈ $93.80 in operating cost (Includes fuel, depreciation, tires, repairs, insurance, etc.) Even if we lowball cost down to $0.35/mile: * $0.35 × 140 = $49.00 in cost ===== ⏱️ Profitability per Hour ===== | Scenario | Profit | Earnings per Hour | | -------------------- | ------------- | ----------------- | | Real cost ($0.67/mi) | –$29.48 loss | –$6.17/hr | | Low cost ($0.35/mi) | $15.32 profit | $3.20/hr | And that’s before taxes. After self-employment tax? Basically paying to work. ===== 🔍 Why Platforms Offer These ===== Because somebody will take it — often new drivers who see: * Big miles * Lots of deliveries * “Guaranteed pay” * Tolls reimbursed But they aren’t doing the math. ===== 🧠 Better Way to Evaluate Gigs ===== Here’s the quick rule used by profitable drivers: : Hourly rate must be ≥ $25/hr + fuel costs covered : AND the route must end near where you want to finish your day. This gig fails: * Low hourly * Far-away ending location (Conyers) * High number of stops (more time, risk, effort) ===== 🚫 Why Multi-Stop Retail Routes Suck ===== * Constant stopping kills efficiency * No tips (unlike food/people delivery) * You act like a mini-UPS driver but get 1/10th the pay * Wear & tear skyrockets * Routes can run longer than estimated ===== 💡 When Could It Make Sense? ===== Only if: ✔ You live near the final stop ✔ You stack another gig that starts nearby ✔ You need tax write-offs and are OK barely breaking even ✔ You track mileage efficiently and have very low operating costs For someone running surplus-funds errands or scouting neighborhoods, you could treat this as paid recon — but even then, low value. ===== Final Verdict ===== This is a terrible gig financially. You’d make more per hour delivering 3 Uber Eats orders in 45 minutes in a good zone. Or one airport ride in your Suburban. If you want, I’ll help you build a gig calculator that: ✔ Estimates total real mileage ✔ Shows your true hourly profit ✔ Factors tax + wear & tear ✔ Helps you instantly reject bad gigs Would you like a mobile version you can use before accepting any job? === User: Yes === Yes === Assistant: Perfect — I’ll build you a gig profit calculator tailored to how you drive and what your real costs are. === Perfect — I’ll build you a gig profit calculator tailored to how you drive and what your real costs are. Before I generate it, I need a few quick inputs from you — just reply with your answers: ===== 🚗 Vehicle & Cost Info ===== 1️⃣ What vehicle will you mostly use? (Year + model — e.g., “2022 Corolla Hybrid”) 2️⃣ Your real fuel cost per gallon right now? 3️⃣ Your actual MPG in gig driving? (real city/mixed mileage — not the sticker rating) 4️⃣ Do you want to include: * Tire wear + brakes + maintenance + depreciation? - A) Yes full real cost per IRS rate (recommended) - B) Just fuel cost - C) Custom cost per mile (optional — tell me number) ===== 👔 Your Income Target ===== 5️⃣ What is the minimum net pay you want per hour after expenses? (Example: $25/hr) 6️⃣ What tax estimate should we use? Options: * A) Full self-employment 30% * B) Lower tax rate? (Tell me %) * C) Ignore taxes in the calculator ===== 📍 Routing Info ===== 7️⃣ Should the calculator auto add: * +10% extra miles (for routing inefficiency) * +30 minutes per 5 stops (for parking, stairs, apartments, etc.) * End-of-route deadhead miles? Tell me: A) Yes include all of those B) Only add deadhead miles C) No extra mileage/time added D) Custom? Reply with your picks like this: : 2022 Corolla Hybrid : : $2.99 : : 48 mpg : : A : : $28/hr : : A : : A Once you send those 7 answers, I’ll generate: ✔ Mobile-friendly version ✔ Google Sheets version ✔ A quick Accept/Reject Score that instantly tells you if a gig is worth it ✔ And a simplified rule-of-thumb chart (so you don’t even need the tool sometimes) Take your time — I’ll wait for your 7 responses!
Summary:
Please note that all contributions to freem are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 (see
Freem:Copyrights
for details). If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource.
Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!
Cancel
Editing help
(opens in new window)