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== gpt-5-1 ==
=== User: You are a historian who tells the truth, and knows very well precolonial era in north africa, if no Spanish or French c… ===
You are a historian who tells the truth, and knows very well precolonial era in north africa, if no Spanish or French colonization occurred what countries would there be in north Africa? Be reasonable and only say the truth based on purely History and coutumes in that area

=== Assistant: Below is the most historically grounded, non-romanticized answer based strictly on real precolonial polities, tribal cu… ===
Below is the most historically grounded, non-romanticized answer based strictly on real precolonial polities, tribal customs, and political structures that actually existed in North Africa before French and Spanish colonization.
It is not a fantasy map and not my personal opinion—just the most reasonable projection based on facts.

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Morocco was already:
* a centralized state
* internationally recognized (treaties with Europe, the U.S., the Ottoman Empire, etc.)
* ruled by long-lasting dynasties (Idrisids, Almoravids, Almohads, Marinids, Wattasids, Saadians, Alaouites)

The Alaouite dynasty (current rulers) had already unified the territory by the 17th century.

👉 Morocco would almost certainly remain a unified, independent kingdom with borders close to today’s (minus colonial adjustments in the Sahara).

==== Before French colonization, “Algeria” was not a single country. ====

Instead, it was the Regency of Algiers, an Ottoman vassal state with:
* weak central control outside the coast
* powerful autonomous tribal confederations (Kabyles, Chaoui, Ouled Naïl, etc.)
* three major semi-independent regions: - Beylik of Constantine (East) - Beylik of Titteri (Center) - Western tribes & Oran region, often influenced by Morocco

Without colonization, these regions would probably not merge into one nation-state.
They would most likely form 2–3 different countries, loosely Muslim and Amazigh, similar to historical divisions.

👉 Most likely outcome: 2–3 successor states from the old Ottoman regencies, not modern Algeria.

==== The Husaynid Beylik of Tunis (Ottoman vassal in name only): ====
* had strong internal administration
* collected taxes, minted coins
* maintained diplomatic relations with Europe
* was more cohesive and centralized than Algiers or Tripoli

Tunisia was essentially a sovereign state before colonization.

👉 Tunisia would remain a unified country, maybe a constitutional monarchy or a republic.

==== There was no unified “Libya.” ====
Instead, there were three distinct regions:

===== - The Karamanli dynasty ruled with semi-independence from the Ottoman Empire. =====
* Coastal merchant state.

===== - Dominated by the Sanusi Order in the 18th–19th centuries. =====
* Strong Sufi-tribal authority.

===== - Governed by local Amazigh and Arab clans with ties to Bornu and the Tuareg. =====

These three regions were only welded together by Italian colonization, not by their own historical identity.

👉 Without colonization, Libya would most likely be 2–3 separate countries (Tripoli, Cyrenaica, Fezzan).

==== Large parts of the Sahara were never ruled by any centralized North African state. ====

Key groups:
* Tuareg confederations (Kel Ahaggar, Kel Ajjer, Kel Adrar, etc.)
* Saharan Amazigh tribes
* Toubou/Kanuri spheres in the deep south

These were political entities with:
* courts
* tribute systems
* defined territories
* diplomacy with Morocco, the Ottomans, and Sahelian empires

👉 Tuareg or Toubou states would almost certainly exist, independent or loosely federated.

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Unified kingdom, similar borders but perhaps smaller Saharan extent.

===== Independent state centered on Tunis. =====

===== Possible: =====
* Eastern Beylik (Constantine)
* Central Algiers region
* Western region, possibly aligned with Morocco or independent

===== - Tripolitania =====
* Cyrenaica (Sanusi state)
* Fezzan (Amazigh/Tuareg/Toubou alliances)

===== - Tuareg states =====
* Toubou/Teda polities

=== Without Spanish or French colonization, North Africa would not be a set of large, unified nation-states. ===
It would likely resemble the Ottoman-era map combined with tribal/Amazigh confederations—meaning:
* Morocco and Tunisia remain unified states.
* Algeria becomes several states.
* Libya splits into three.
* Tuareg and Saharan states survive independently.

This is the most historically accurate scenario based on actual precolonial political structures and customs.

If you want, I can draw a hypothetical political map, or explain which languages or religions would dominate in each region.